Poster: Mark Hunnibell <[log in to unmask]> >> 2. You agree to not copy or extract, systematically or manually, >> any information from IAF for commercial purposes. > >> 7. All information submitted by you for inclusion in IAF will >> become part of a database, the compilation copyright for which >> is owned exclusively by Innovation Insights. > >The first one is patently offensive, because that is the EXACT means >that they used to compile their data, trampling on the individual >policies of each list they mined. > >The second one is even more serious. They are copyrighting people's >names and addresses without their consent. As long as IAF remains free, they are *not* using the info for commercial purposes, are they? Second, although they cannot copyright the INFORMATION, they *can* copyright the compilation, which is exactly what they have done. >Not one of the "Frequently Asked Questions" is the one that I >already know the answer to: > > Did any of these alleged three million people actually give you > permission to use their name and e-mail address in your for-profit > company and to then copyright their name? I can answer that. I never provided these people with information -- it's not something I do. Even my home phone number is unlisted. And I routinely set all my subscriptions to CONCEAL where this option is available (e.g. listserv (TM)). And yet my name, e-mail address, AND PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT WITH *ITS* SNAILMAIL ADDRESS, are in their database. It is marked as having been updated "11/10/95" (either 11 October 1995, when I was out of the country!, or 10 November 1995, which is certainly recently enough that I would remember having been asked to have my name and information entered into their database). >Send mail to [log in to unmask] if this whole thing just bugs you silly. Oh, I did, I did. I'll be interested to see if they delete my entry, as I requested they do. This doesn't just bug me silly, it INFURIATES me. >Cheers Prosit. >Mark Hunnibell Email: [log in to unmask] Mario Rups [log in to unmask]