On Mon, 30 Oct 23:32, Mentor Cana <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Can someone tell me what is going on below! It is a loop. Skip to the "bottom", and work your way to the "top". > It seems to me that there is some problem with the listserv at UBVM.BITNET > (ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu). No, LISTSERV is working correctly, i.e., receiving and distributing messages. > I own two lists there (ALBANIAN and ALBANEWS), and I got the some problem > on both of them in the past 1-2 hours. Up to now I've received about > 1000 error messages from owner-albanian and owner-albanews. > > So, considering that I have a problem on both lists, seems to me that the > problem is with the listserv. You've got *TWO* subscriber-related problems: - one subscriber is "bouncing" all ALBANEWS messages back to the list, creating a "loop", - a different subscriber's E-mail system seems to have detected the "duplicate" postings, and is refusing to pass them to the subscriber. Cure the first problem, and the second should go away. >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:26:47 -0500 >From: L-Soft list server at UBVM (1.8b) <[log in to unmask]> >To: Mentor Cana <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: ALBANEWS: error report from LL.MIT.EDU 33. MAILER@UBVM passed LISTSERV's report about the non-delivery to you. >The enclosed mail file has been identified as a delivery error for list >ALBANEWS because it was sent to the reserved 'owner-albanews' mailbox. > >------------------------------ Message in error ------------------------------- >Received: from UBVM (NJE origin SMTP@UBVM) by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LMail > V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0178; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:00:13 -0500 32. SMTP@UBVM passed the message to [log in to unmask] >Received: from ll.mit.edu by UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; > Mon, 30 Oct 95 21:59:58 EST 31. Non-delivery message sent to UBVM. >Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AB16624; Mon, 30 Oct 95 21:56:44 EST >Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 21:56:44 EST >From: [log in to unmask] (Mail Delivery Subsystem) >Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable >Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> >To: <@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU:[log in to unmask]> 30. The 'mailer-daemon' at 'LL.MIT.EDU' reported the non-delivery to the "owner" of ALBANEWS. > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >Connected to atc.ll.mit.edu: >>>> DATA ><<< 554 <[log in to unmask]>... Mail loop detected > 554 howells_dorothy@atc.ll.mit.edu... Service unavailable 29. Bad news! That subscriber cannot receive E-mail. > ----- Unsent message follows ----- >Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA16610; Mon, 30 Oct 95 21:53:54 EST >Return-Path: <@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU:[log in to unmask]> >Received: from UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA16590; Mon, > 30 Oct 95 21:52:21 EST 28. SMTP@UBVM sent a copy of the re-posting to a subscriber at 'LL.MIT.EDU'. >Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU by UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) > with BSMTP id 8091; Mon, 30 Oct 95 21:46:40 EST 27. [log in to unmask] >Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UBVM) by > UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0226; Mon, > 30 Oct 1995 21:11:48 -0500 26. [log in to unmask] >Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LISTSERV release > 1.8b) with NJE id 0905 for [log in to unmask]; Mon, 30 Oct > 1995 21:11:39 -0500 25. [log in to unmask] >Received: from UBVM (NJE origin SMTP@UBVM) by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LMail > V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7439; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 20:00:06 -0500 24. [log in to unmask] >Received: from pop.stud.let.ruu.nl by UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) > with TCP; Mon, 30 Oct 95 19:59:52 EST 23. Back to UBVM. >Received: by pop.stud.let.ruu.nl id AA10083 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for Multiple > recipients of list ALBANEWS <[log in to unmask]>); Tue, 31 > Oct 1995 02:01:04 +0100 22. Routed back to ALBANEWS. >Received: from hearn.nic.surfnet.nl by pop.stud.let.ruu.nl with SMTP id > AA10069 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for <[log in to unmask]>); Tue, 31 Oct 1995 > 02:00:57 +0100 21. Delivered to 'lets1321'. >Received: from HEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL by HEARN.nic.SURFnet.nl (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) > with BSMTP id 6656; Tue, 31 Oct 95 02:01:21 +0100 20. [log in to unmask] >Received: from NIC.SURFNET.NL (NJE origin LISTSERV@HEARN) by > HEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9932; Tue, 31 > Oct 1995 02:01:20 +0100 19. [log in to unmask] >Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LISTSERV release > 1.8b) with NJE id 4882 for [log in to unmask]; Mon, 30 Oct > 1995 19:59:25 -0500 18. LISTSERV@UBVM received it, on behalf of ALBANEWS. >Received: from UBVM (NJE origin SMTP@UBVM) by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LMail > V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0775; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 18:06:14 -0500 17. MAILER@UBVM received it. >Received: from pop.stud.let.ruu.nl by UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) > with TCP; Mon, 30 Oct 95 18:06:03 EST 16. SMTP@UBVM received the "bounced" re-posting. >Received: by pop.stud.let.ruu.nl id AA06752 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for Multiple > recipients of list ALBANEWS <[log in to unmask]>); Tue, 31 > Oct 1995 00:07:15 +0100 15. The re-posting was re-addressed to ALBANEWS. >Received: from hearn.nic.surfnet.nl by pop.stud.let.ruu.nl with SMTP id > AA06740 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for <[log in to unmask]>); Tue, 31 Oct 1995 > 00:07:05 +0100 14. The re-posting was delivered to 'lets1321'. >Received: from HEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL by HEARN.nic.SURFnet.nl (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) > with BSMTP id 9942; Tue, 31 Oct 95 00:07:09 +0100 13. SMTP@HEARN received the re-posting. >Received: from NIC.SURFNET.NL (NJE origin LISTSERV@HEARN) by > HEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4587; Tue, 31 > Oct 1995 00:07:06 +0100 12. LISTSERV@UBVM enlisted LISTSERV@HEARN to distribute the re-posting. >Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LISTSERV release > 1.8b) with NJE id 5735 for [log in to unmask]; Mon, 30 Oct > 1995 17:58:25 -0500 11. LISTSERV@UBVM received the message addressed to ALBANEWS. Since the 'Sender:' tag was retained from the original distribution, LISTSERV determined that an "editor" authorized the posting. >Received: from UBVM (NJE origin SMTP@UBVM) by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LMail > V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5663; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 15:19:00 -0500 10. MAILER@UBVM received it. >Received: from pop.stud.let.ruu.nl by UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) > with TCP; Mon, 30 Oct 95 15:18:53 EST 9. SMTP@UBVM received the posting. >Received: by pop.stud.let.ruu.nl id AA00447 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for Multiple > recipients of list ALBANEWS <[log in to unmask]>); Mon, 30 > Oct 1995 21:20:05 +0100 8. The SMTP-server at POP.STUD.LET.RUU.NL sent the posting back to ALBANEWS. Why? Did the recipient initiate this? >Received: from hearn.nic.surfnet.nl by pop.stud.let.ruu.nl with SMTP id > AA00435 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for <[log in to unmask]>); Mon, 30 Oct 1995 > 21:19:59 +0100 7. The SMTP-server at POP.STUD.LET.RUU.NL received the copy addressed to [log in to unmask] >Received: from HEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL by HEARN.nic.SURFnet.nl (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) > with BSMTP id 8964; Mon, 30 Oct 95 21:20:19 +0100 6. SMTP@HEARN received a copy of the posting. >Received: from NIC.SURFNET.NL (NJE origin LISTSERV@HEARN) by > HEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6573; Mon, 30 > Oct 1995 21:20:19 +0100 5. LISTSERV@UBVM enlisted LISTSERV@HEARN to "distribute" the posting to various European-based subscribers. >Received: from UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LISTSERV release > 1.8b) with NJE id 0047 for [log in to unmask]; Mon, 30 Oct > 1995 15:18:20 -0500 4. LISTSERV@UBVM received it. >Received: from UBVM (NJE origin SMTP@UBVM) by UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (LMail 3. The MAILER@UBVM (running the "LMail" software) received it. > V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6676; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 13:15:58 -0500 >Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net by UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (IBM VM SMTP > V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 30 Oct 95 13:15:38 EST 2. The SMTP-server at UBVM received it. >Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-4.mail.demon.net id sg.ac12424; 30 > Oct 95 17:40 GMT >Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa27030; > 30 Oct 95 17:37 GMT >X-Mailer: FIMail V0.9d >X-User: Alpha Test Version Of FI-Mail, DisWin 1.5C:\WINSOCK\WINDIS >Lines: 491 >Approved-By: KIC - London <[log in to unmask]> >X-To: [log in to unmask] >X-Parsed-By: mail_vrfy2 1 >Approved-By: AlbaNews - Albanian News List <[log in to unmask]> >Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> >Newsgroups: bit.listserv.albanian >Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 17:35:45 GMT >Reply-To: AlbaNews - Albanian News List <[log in to unmask]>, > KIC - London <[log in to unmask]> >Sender: AlbaNews - Albanian News List <[log in to unmask]> >From: KIC - London <[log in to unmask]> 1. This ID sent E-mail to [log in to unmask] >Subject: Shqip:Informatori ditor nr. 1196 >To: Multiple recipients of list ALBANEWS > <[log in to unmask]>