By the way: When I do a LISTS GLOBAL I get a nearly comprehensive list of groups that use LISTSERV, but there's a whole world of lists out there that are not mentioned, such as the majordomo-managed ones. Do you know of some way I could review some of them too? I've been looking for groups on the subjects of DBase programming, neonatology, hydrographic surveying, and others. (Largely requests from coworkers, I promise I am not one of those "renaissance man" spammer/vacuumer dolts.) Thanks, -JCA