Mark, You are brilliant. I didn't notice the December 1996 date. That was right around the time when Temple was working on the various systems and was down for extended periods of time. I be someone put in the wrong year and renewal notices went out until the error was discovered. That also explains one note I got from a subscriber who is on both my Temple lists and wrote that she received a renewal notice from Vatican2 as well. Thank you! Ingrid Shafer ([log in to unmask] and [log in to unmask])