On Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:53:39 -0500 Dan Wheeler <[log in to unmask]> said: >The switch back and forth between Kanji and ASCII is controlled by an >escape sequence. In order for this to work with LISTSERV lists, the >"Translate= No" list keyword must be specified. The default of >"Translate= Yes" causes LISTSERV to delete control characters from the >messages. Escape sequences do not work well when the <esc> codes are >deleted. ;-) All right, "Translate= Yes" would remove the ESC code, but sending an unencoded ASCII control character in an e-mail message and expecting it to be unaltered sounds *very* optimistic to me. While I've always said that MTAs that aren't 8-bit clean are brain damaged, control characters are another story. Most file viewers for instance will strip them off, to prevent the contents of the message from taking control of your terminal settings (which with "intelligent" terminals is actually a serious security risk - you can program a function key to do 'rm -Rf *' or whatever, and then press it!) And when going through an EBCDIC system, you can be pretty sure that the control character will come out as something mostly unrelated. Surely there must be an option to encode the message using MIME. It will look like gibberish to people without a MIME reader, but then a message in Japanese would probably look like gibberish to someone without the right tools to display the original characters :-) Eric