I think you have created a dilemma by your conflicting needs. What value does it server to have SUB By_Owner and w/o an interaction with the user (either automated or manual) and then subscribe them? I suggest that you revert to SUB OPEN/CONFIRM, w/ NO default-option of REVIEW. As you may need to, SET luser to REVIEW or NOPOST, either based on personal history with luser, or site. -- co-owner: INFOSYS, TQM-L, CPARK-L, ERAPPA-L, JANITORS, LDBASE-L, et -L URL:mailto:[log in to unmask] "I've been cybertagged :-("