Besides those "whitehouse" subs we've got a slew of other, maybe bogus, subs on lstown-l, a lot of them from aol.com , like: [log in to unmask] Conartistr Conartistr [log in to unmask] TOSgeneral TOSgenreal etc. Also some interesting ones at compuserve and elsewhere. Hey, Eric (the *real* Eric, Eric Thomas), thought about using your own system and making LSTOWN-L open,confirm ? :-) Douglas Douglas Winship Hays County, Texas [log in to unmask] Secondary AUTOCAT Listowner MEDLAB-L