It might be good to be able to compare notes with other list-owners using the WU facilities. My list suffered another mysterious shut-down over the weekend, and we might be able to help out the new manager if we knew how the other lists were responding. The old manager mentioned problems with their gateway on several occasions when this happened in the past. If the server itself is fine, and no one was getting any response from it, maybe this can give them a clue. Mike Holloway [log in to unmask]