John Witherspoon asked about forcing a bottom footer that would include name and e-mail address on messages due to brain-dead <my term> mailing programs that eat this info out of the header. John, I don't know about a footer, but when my subscribers complain of this I set them to DUAL (headers). This inserts the "from" information into the body of the message at the beginning. e.g. SET listname DUAL for user@node Valorie King TAGFAM [log in to unmask] http://www.access.digex.net/~king/tagfam.html