stdcmd.file on the server is out of date. It's probably been a while since you fetched a copy of common.tar and installed it. When you do be careful if you have anything in site.catalog. There's an empty site.catalog in common.tar and make update will use it to replace yours if yours has an "older" time stamp on it. -- Glenn A. Malling <[log in to unmask]> Syracuse University Computing Services +1 (315) 443-4111 220 Machinery Hall Syracuse, New York 13244-1260 Postmaster for SUnix and LISTSERV.