Thanks to L-Soft's unusually well-written manual (for a computer company :-> ) I have set up a biannual confirmation schedule for PAGEMAKR. It has certainly helped me, and no-one seems to mind too much. However, as following simple instructions seems beyond some people, every six months we have a rash of confirmations coming throught to the list instead of listserv. Which is odd, since every time I ask, people say the message comes to them from [log in to unmask], meaning they would have to do a forward and deliberately type in the wrong address to mess it up. Or could it be that some people get a message with a FROM: line of LISTSERV@ while others get one from PAGEMAKR@? Mine comes from LISTSERV@, so I just REPLY, using the editor to delete all the message text except the confirm command. But obviously this does not work for everyone.... Also, I assume from the manual that 6-monthly is a legal value, although it is not explicitly stated. True? Right now I have RENEWAL set to 6/15,12/15,Delay(14) to roughly coincide with the deletion of student accounts. However, as I understand it, this means someone could subscribe on 6/14 and be asked to renew the next day. Would a 6-monthly (or whatever) value ask everyone to renew six months from their subscription date, thus spreading out the chaos :-> over the year instead of concentrating it in June and Dec.? Do those of you who use renewals set your lists to a fixed date value or to periodic? +-------------------------------------------+------------------------------+ | And the #1 thing you can do to help the | Peter C.S. Adams | | environment is ... become a vegetarian. | Univ. of Mass. at Boston | | Ask me why! | co-listowner, PAGEMAKR | +-------------------------------------------+------------------------------+