Does your list have * SUBSCRIPTION= OPEN,CONFIRM This pre-empts alot of these "subscribe/can't post" problems (but not all of them since e-mail addresses change over time). Of course using the above configuration MOVES the problem to "can't post" to "can't subscribe," yet gets one step closer to resolving up front. Also, you may note, that some folks can successfully subscribe with this new configuraton, can generate new posts for distribution, yet can NOT reply to list distribution posts i.e., some folks REPLY function generates a different FROM: than original (non-REPLY) e-mail. This is why we list-owner make the big buck$. ;-) -- co-owner: INFOSYS, TQM-L, CPARK-L, ERAPPA-L, JANITORS, LDBASE-L, et -L URL:mailto:[log in to unmask] "Never confuse the messenger with the message"