UBVM aka ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu does not respond to PING. The last address along the route to there that responded was 199.33.167.30 The reverse pointer for that host / router does not exist, but the network to which it belongs is: Western New York Health Science Consortium (NET-WNYHSC) University at Buffalo School of Medicine and Biomedical Sciences 145 CFS Addition 3435 Main St. Buffalo, NY 14214 Netname: WNYHSC Netnumber: 199.33.167.0 Coordinator: Howard, Mark (MH208) [log in to unmask] (716)898-5402 Because of LISTSERV Distribute routings being dependent upon the number of subscribers AND their subscription options, it is possible that one subscriber could receive a list distribution via one path and another subscriber AT THE SAME HOST via another path (route). /Pete Weiss at Penn State