Related to Ben's response: Have a top-level list whose default is NOTEBOOK= NO, TOPICS= ARCHIVE, DEFAULT-TOPICS= ALL,-ARCHIVE with the usual subscribers and the psuedo subscriber ARCHIVE ... The latter is another list. It's top-level subscription option is SET listname TOPICS: ARCHIVE It's own list definition includes a NOTEBOOK= YES. Thus, folks who want their submissions archived must use a SUBJECT: ARCHIVE: xxx yyy zzz when they e-mail the (top-level) list -- co-owner: INFOSYS, TQM-L, CPARK-L, ERAPPA-L, JANITORS, LDBASE-L, et -L URL:mailto:[log in to unmask] "Don't drink n' drive on the info. super hi-way"