>really screw up the list as far as sorting by name goes. I rarely >do that but a co-owner does regularly, so when a new sub comes in >with the wrong format I just change it to one which will sort properly. BTW, in this particular case a list-owner can change a Subscriber's name field w/o doing a DEL followed by an ADD (which is what the owner does if they manually process a change of subscriber address). QUIET ADD listname userid@node canonical_firstname canonical_lastname BTW, the userid portion must match letter-for-letter/ case-for-case with the original subcriber, otherwise instead of the ADD acting like a CHANGE, it will _add_ a second subscription. /Pete Weiss at Penn State