Holidays are tricky. On some of my lists over the xmas break (10 days here), I HOLD the lists (pre-announced). This really cuts down on the bounces! ;-) If you do not already have a list-maintenance-only userid, please consider getting one for error/bounce handling. This can prevent you from becoming insane as quickly as you might otherwise. You would make that userid either the first OWNER= operand, the operand of an * ERRORS-TO=, and or operand of a * NOTIFY=. The first non-quiet list-owner is also referenced indirectly by the reserved OWNER operand of the last two keywords. -- co-owner: INFOSYS, TQM-L, CPARK-L, ERAPPA-L, JANITORS, LDBASE-L, et -L URL:mailto:[log in to unmask] "I get paid by the millisecond"