Hmmm. My list (GS-L) seems to have recently been converted to 1.8c. I thought I'd try out this SUBJECTHDR thing from my test subscription account. Looks like it overrides DUALHDR, IETFHDR, SHORTHDR, etc. and forces FULLHDR. Why was it done this way? Frankly, seems dumb. A change to the displayed "Subject" should be independent of how mail headers are actually presented. Why isn't it an independent option? Say I'd like to get IETF headers with the subject line changed to have the listname inserted. What's wrong with that? (IETF headers have one good use that I can see: "Reply-To: listname" is omitted, allowing the subscriber the choice of default replies to the "From:" person rather than the list, overriding the list default (in my case, "List,Repect"). Also: "INFO REFCARD" is still old -- doesn't say anything about this option. I would think this would be updated as part of the installation. Maybe I just am confused... wouldn't be the first time. If so, enlightenment would be appreciated. Cheers, Stan Ryckman ([log in to unmask])