I like your idea of a family list and can offer you not only a list but the opportunity for real-time chat in a congenial atmosphere in GrassRoots. http://rdz.stjohns.edu/grassroots. I will be out of the country for the next 2 weeks and have copied this to Ann Parsons who you can speak to about GrassRoots. I will also send a starter kit for new lists separately. Bob Zenhausern, Ph.D. IBM: [log in to unmask] Psychology Department Linux: [log in to unmask] SB 15 Marillac Phone: 718-990-6447 Jamaica, NY 11439 Fax: 718-990-6705