Apparently, * OWNER= QUIET:,rfc822_address is NOT listed in the document you selected, but it IS in the list-owner's manual. Likewise, it has been mentioned herein: email [log in to unmask] /* --------------------- clip and save ---------------- */ //ListSrch JOB Echo=no Database Search DD=Rules OUTLIM=5000 f=mail //Rules DD * search 'quiet;' in lstown-l index #.5 date.8 subject.64 * PRINT /* // EOJ /* --------------------- clip and save ---------------- */ What you could have done is check the list kword * NOTIFY= and make sure it was specified explicitly as OWNER (and NOT ownerS). This would have "told" LISTSERV that sub/unsubs notifications to go to the FIRST non-quiet owner, as opposed to ALL non-quiet ownerS. The advantage in having a non-quiet, non-first owner listed is that e-mail directed to the generic e-mail address listname-REQUEST@hosting_listserv_fqdn is directed to ALL non-quiet owners. -- co-owner: INFOSYS, TQM-L, CPARK-L, ERAPPA-L, JANITORS, LDBASE-L, et -L URL:mailto:[log in to unmask] "PSUVM.bitnet RIP 12/31/96"