> The reason I wanted to know is that we are running a contest on my list, >and to be eligible, one should have been a member of the list before x >date. therefore It would be very nice to know the date that someone >subscribed. My question has been answered, I doubt if we are running 1.8c >yet since I get no dates when I do a query. Thanks for the input, Trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear is always filled with some risk. This is NOT a slight at L-Soft or you, but when one tries to use a feature outside of its design parameters, then one exposes themselves to some additional risk of failure. Those who want to maintain such a data should design their own with info they garner from the NOTIFY= mail generated. (Heck some listowners often rebuild their subscriber db from external data.) Regards, /Pete Weiss at Penn State