You may have more chances on other L-soft lists like LSTSRV-L. Listowners are most of the time volunteers maintaining lists on the .EDU domain machines (many VM IBM mainframes) ... I know of one guy who migrated his list from a VM mainframe to his "own" unix box: "Hugh Messenger" <[log in to unmask]> maybe you can try him out if you don't have enough replies ... Beware, he's become a "majordomo" guy ;-) HTH, -- Eric Paul-Hus