On Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:39:55 GMT, Roger Pfister <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >My list is sub by owner the instructions I have been handing out say > >to join send to [log in to unmask] > subscribe [log in to unmask] first-name surname > >ALSO send to > [log in to unmask] >with some info proving you are a member of our group (its a social >club) Don't work harder than you have to. There is no need for users to send 2 separate messages. Re-read 9.4.3 (Tips for using templates) in the Owner Manual and see the below note: To: Multiple recipients of list EASE-HOME Subject: Re: questionnaire From: Nathan Brindle <[log in to unmask]> Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:08:52 EDT I have one list that I run this way. Basically, you would need to create a listname.MAILTPL for your list with at least the following templates, set up something like this: %----------------------------cut here-------------------------------% >>> SUB_OWNER &LISTNAME: &WHOM requested to join .TO &WHOM A copy of the &LISTNAME membership questionnaire has been sent to you. Please read it carefully and follow the instructions to complete it and return it to the list owners. >>> ADDREQ1 &LISTNAME Membership Survey .RE OWNERS .* above forces Reply-To: address to be &LISTNAME-Request@&MYHOST .TO &WHOM .* above sends this all back to the new user .* below is the questionnaire text .CE &LISTNAME Membership Survey NOTE: Please make sure when you send this back that it goes to the address &LISTNAME-Request@&MYHOST. Thanks. This is a standard questionnaire required for all prospective subscribers to &LISTNAME. Blah blah blah... %----------------------------cut here-------------------------------% Note that you cannot format the SUB_OWNER template; it all comes out as one long paragraph without formatting no matter what you do, because it is a "linear" template. But you should modify it from the default to let people know that they will receive a questionnaire to be filled out and returned. The questionnaire itself goes in ADDREQ1 and you can use all of the template formatting commands in it. For more information on templates, see chapter 9 of the list owner's manual, particularly 9.4.3. Nathan ===================== If you follow these instructions, and set up the questionnaire/automatic statement template, then the following happens: New user SUBs in normal way (msg to LISTSERV@host, etc) LISTSERV sends subscription template back to new user (same as CONFIRM) New user fills in requested information and Replies back to LISTSERV LISTSERV forwards completed sub questionnaire to List Owner(s) (Owner is not bothered by user until this point) Owner determines if answers are correct: If correct, Owner FWDs template with ADD command back to LISTSERV If not correct, Owner can followup as necessary This is much easier. There are no dual msgs to 'synchronize', etc. Any owner can act on the request to Subscribe (if the new user answered correctly). You have full control over the Subscribe message content via the listname.MAILTPL file. Another case of LISTSERV taking admin overhead off the shoulders of the weary and busy List Owner! [all List Owners should now make the Lsoft sign and bow towards Sweden] -- ________________________________________________________________________ Ben Parker ............ (Oak Park IL) .......... [log in to unmask]