The problem with the WIN95-L list is not that the P133 is too slow, but that there are so many people using the WWW interface nowadays that the box needs a RAM upgrade to be able to service all these WWW accesses plus searches to lists with really large archives (of which WIN95-L is the only one). This machine used to work fine with 128M before we enabled the WWW interface on the large lists, after which we quickly had to add another 64M. This solved the problem at first but we knew it would not last forever and decided to upgrade the server. We waited for the box we wanted (400MHz Alpha with 512M) to become available, and then we ordered it. Like every new box it had a long lead time, but we did not want to order an expensive server that was about to become obsolete. Especially as, through some kind of marketing policy that I cannot understand, the obsolete model was actually more expensive once you put the 512M of RAM in it :-) We would have done that if this had been a customer list, but this is a list that we run for free and it is the only one affected. About a week ago it turned out that our order had been cancelled and we had not been notified. I could tell you what I think happened to our order exactly and which company now has our server on site while a "bug" in the reseller's computer vaporized our order, but the bottom line is that the server isn't there and we have placed a new order from a new and hopefully more dependable reseller. Meanwhile you are right that WIN95-L searches have become unbearably slow. I have set up a mirror on another server and updated the main win95-l.html page on PEACH to point to that machine. It may not be lightning fast, as that machine is far from being perfect for the task (and has other things to do as well), but at least it is usable. None of this, incidentally, has any bearing on the LSTSRV-L peer at PEACH, where archive searches are fast. Eric