>You DID read the 1.8c release notes, didn't you? Actually no... Thanks to John Asher for making the suggestion about using a mail template. ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Have you looked in the default.mailtpl (or the .mailtpl for your list)? You may be able to prevent the cc: being sent to the user by changing the SUB_CLOSED template to something like: >>> SUB_CLOSED .QQ John ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- I was able to create the template and get listserv to read it. Listserv 1.8a will accept some of the commands, but unfortunately not all... SUB_CLOSED was not in the default.mailtpl, which is most likely why it didn't work? This information wasn't documented with 1.8a so I apologize for using bandwidth. The online docs for 1.8c (very well written) were used. Anyway, everybody's situation/circumstances will be different. "Assuming" you are the listserv maintainer, using 1.8c, VM operating system. Obviously (or maybe not) you may select names, procedures as desired. Online docs at: http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/index.html FSV Guide by Ben Chi is also good reading. Get from [log in to unmask] get listserv filelist ( ctl receive file and add the following line: /F/ MAILTMPL FILELIST OWN CTL . . . . . Mail Templates for Lists file lsvput listserv filelist ( put wait for successful confirmation create mailtmpl filelist lsvput mailtmpl filelist ( put get default mailtmpl rename listname mailtmpl edit as needed (only the parts that are changed need to be put back) lsvput listname mailtmpl ( put I "believe" this procedure would have had the desired effect I was after if we had a current version of Listserv? The traffic generated by spoofing problem has been trimmed, but not completely eliminated. I'm looking forward to seeing what 1.8c in action! I'll let you know if it fixes the problem! :-) Thanks again to all who responded. Your comments were most welcomed and helpful! Howard