In brief: I would like LSoft to change the subscription mechanism to return all of the subscribers headers on a subscription request, or to make this feature available as a site or list option as LSoft sees fit. The full text and headers of the subscription request would be returned to the subscriber or forwarded to the list owner as appropriate to the lists configuration. The purpose would be to provide additional info to the victims of auto-forgers to determine who had attacked them. Background. Last Nov. three of this sites 400+ lists were wired as the default targets of a highly rated auto-forger interface called Kaboom v3.0 (further info available via feeding kaboom!3.zip to AltaVista) which was widely circulated. All the targeted lists at this site were already set to subscription by owner, and as of early Spring all 60 of the lists had been configured to defeat this mechanism and the author withdrew the zipfile. None the less, I just checked our server and intercepted 7 sets of attacks in 32 minutes on this fairly typical day. This indicates to me that the typical mailbomber is an even bigger idiot than one would otherwise assume, if possible. The side effects are increased overhead on the owners and numerous requests to me (as Postmaster) from the victims (or frequently their Postmasters) to sift through massive SMTP logs so that I can manually send back information that is, in every case I've checked, the same or slightly inferior to the information in the header of the subscription request. In response to an owner inquiry yesterday I did a specific audit that indicates to me that there is at least one other auto-forger being run against our OLD server (that we migrated from two months ago); I have no idea what's going on with the new server. -Kary