An unwelcome change in the upgrade from 1.8b to 1.8c has been the confirmation requirement for subscription requests which are sent through a web browser. This requirement is imposed automatically and is not an option which can be set or removed by a header keyword. My list uses the "by owner" option for subscription requests, and in addition I require the new subscriber to read and agree to a rather lengthy "rules of the list" message before I enter their subscription. The result is that the additional confirmation which 1.8c requires is an unnecessary stumbling block to the potential new subscriber. I don't know how many such subscribers my list may have lost due to this extra requirement. I received a message for help from one such potential subscriber today, and in looking at the message he received, I discovered this section: "Note that the security level of the list is under list owner control, and that is the person you should contact if you have any complaint about security procedures." Now that's really adding insult to injury!! This aspect of security is NOT under my control. If I'm wrong, then please tell me how to get rid of it. And if I'm right, then at least let me change the text of the message so that I won't be blamed for the additional burden. Les