Cyclops wrote: > Consumers of lists just > don't really care, I don't think. I disagree list subcribers are still heavily involved in computers in general (programmers, MIS, tech dep, IT crew, support specialist, etc ...) And our list pushed a system programmer at U Conn to start CTBLUS-L for a more "geographically refined" version of the worldwide BLUES-L ... He had the choice between "hack-your-list-away" from his personal ISP or the U Conn LISTSERV ... Incidently, he now wants Brown U ((where the list is hosted)) to upgrade to 1.8c :-) (My list is still under 1.8b) ... As per the "marketing impact" of such a move and creating precedents for other lists (It could be a "standard policy" from L-Soft to give a hand to LISTSERV lists wanting to organize RL events and T-Shirt/ Sweatshirt/ Jackets or other memorabilia ... ). I would let the marketing people at L-Soft decide if such a "caring beyond duty" image is good for a software company ;-) ... If they help us with our T-Shirts, man, I'd even let any L-Soft employee on this list take crerdit for the idea :-)) C U ! -- Eric Paul-Hus "Who just missed the 10th Ann. T-Shirt by a couple of weeks ..."