Our site just got up to 1.8c. I've done some reading on the probe feature. i have a list qith 1100 subscribers, and I have renewal every six months. I like it because it weeds people off the list who no longer use their accts, etc. The probe feature, as far as i can read, only checks to see if there is a valid path to a subscriber: i.e., can they get mail. What seems to be missing is "do they want to get mail." Obviously they could sign off, but some don't, or they leave and their account is active but they shoudlnt be getting mail. Anyway--I'm wondering, is there a way to get the benefits of PROBE and regular renewal? Kieran _______________________________________________ Kieran O'Connor OCM BOCES: Serving Cortland, Chittenango, APW, Lansing Syracuse, NY USA [log in to unmask] (607) 753-6061 or (315) 433-8335 _______________________________________________