My list (GS-L) is on TREARN (vm.ege.edu.tr). Virtually nothing has come through from there in two weeks, and absolutely nothing for the last one week. A small trickle of posts came through approximately Mon. June 30 and Fri. July 4; during that week, "ping" and "traceroute" showed vm.ege.edu.tr to be down much of the time. This week, ping and traceroute have shown it to be up, but: -> posts to the list -> commands to [log in to unmask] (such as "THANK") -> email letters to Turgut Kalfaoglu (site maintainer) all have been sent without response, not even a bounce. Meanwhile, those on the list who know my identity (which is most of the frequent posters) keep asking whether we're permanently dead, etc. Frankly, I don't know how to tell. Anyone know what's going on there? What can a poor listowner do? I thought there were over 100 lists at TREARN; does anyone else on LSTOWN-L have a list there that's either working or not? Thanks in advance, Stan Ryckman ([log in to unmask])