The Email company is the host of the Phillipenes DNS zone .ph, and offer a variety of interesting gateways for connectivity to the net. I assume that they've subscribed to my list (NTBugtraq) like any other exploder would, in order that they (the ISP) can minimize the bandwidth that multiple customers might consume if they (the customer) subscribed individually. Cheers, Russ R.C. Consulting, Inc. - NT/Internet Security owner of the NTBugTraq mailing list: http://ntbugtraq.rc.on.ca/index.html