On Thu, 07 Aug 1997 22:46:22 EDT, you said: > I did ask to be on this list, and I know how to get off, but does anyone > have any idea how all of these people could get on a list without knowing? > Yes I know how to do e-mail spoofing, but this many people? It's worse than that. The list is "open, confirm", which means that even after a forged subscription, the user would STILL have to confirm it. Also, note that almost all the "victims" seem to be at AOL. I'm fairly convinced that there are a number of things at work here: 1) Apparently AOL has a misleading entry for the list, so people subscribe to it accidentally. 2) AOL users appear not to be able to read the mail that is sent to them saying how to unsubscribe. <warning - the following program contains satire and socio-political commentary. Parental discretion advised.> I'm not that up to speed on Listserv's template facility, but perhaps we need to add to the default 'confirm your subscription' prose the following sort of thing: .if victim = *.aol.com and listname=lstsrv-l YO! Net-surfer dooodz! This k-rad 3l33t list is *NOT* about blooz music, or sexy pictures, or warez filez, or whatever it is AOL told you it was. It's about a software package that manages mailing lists. If you don't give a hoot about this software, DO NOT CONFIRM THIS SUBSCRIPTION! Just delete the mail, walk away, and find someplace else to enjoy yourself. If you *do* decide to subscribe anyhow, *SAVE THE DIRECTIONS*. We're tired of telling AOL users how to get off the list, and are using a .357 Magnum for removal. AOL doesn't care - when you have 12 million customers, losing one isn't much. We dont care either - Dirty Harry movies in REAL LIFE are more fun than having to explain AGAIN to an AOL user. .endif (Apologies in advance to any AOL users on this list who have more than a half dozen neurons - it's 4AM, it's been a LONG week wasted cleaning up after lamers rather than doing anything productive, and I'm severely convinced that the only thing that $20/month all-you-can-eat internet proves is that the average intelligence required to have a spare $20/month is quite low... maybe we'll get very lucky, they'll stay online, not reproduce, and the future forecast in C.M. Korbluth's "The Marching Morons" won't come to pass... ;) /Valdis (who picks up a mop, and starts cleaning up the vented spleen off the floor. I feel MUCH better now, catch you all Monday ;)