How do owners cause themselves to receive the Welcome and the "administrative" (output of $SIGNUP template) messages when they SUBSCRIBE or ADD themselves to their list? In particular, when an owner revises either message, and wants to test/see the new version, fully formatted, how does she get it? LISTSERV normally sends the sub/add acknowledgement with a "No notification has been sent" comment. Am I missing something here? (I know one can test by using a non-owner userid; that's not the point.) Peter R.