Dear Mr. Harrison: I am having almost the same problem. Apparently someone in the computer center where our lists are hosted has implemented some sort of bottom banners (without the desired text) on the two lists that I manage, after I requested that VM file IDs be created allowing the storage of filename mailtpl files. In reading Section 9.5 of the L-Soft List Owner's Manual (included below for your reference), I found that before I can put (store) the edited mail template file back on the server, the manual says, "the LISTSERV maintainer will have to create a fileid for the file before you can PUT it on the server. Contact the LISTSERV maintainer before trying to store your template file." Yet, as with your situation, the listname mailtpl files do not show up in file lists. Thus I am not able to get, edit and "put" (store) the listname mailtpl files back on the server. When I attempt to get the listname mailtpl files, Listserv responds: "File 'LISTNAME MAILTPL' from filelist LISTSERV is unknown to LISTSERV." What could be the problem, and how were the mystery bottom banners created? Here is the pertinent section of the L-Soft List Owner's Manual: 9.5. Storing the <listname>.MAILTPL file on the host machine ------------------------------------------------------------ The procedure differs slightly on VM systems, but the following will work for unix, VMS and Windows systems: 1. Get a copy of DEFAULT.MAILTPL and edit it. 2. Be sure that you have defined a "personal password" to LISTSERV with the PW ADD command before you PUT the template file. If you have done this but can't remember the password, send a PW RESET command to LISTSERV, then a new PW ADD command. 3. Send the file to LISTSERV with a PUT listname MAILTPL PW=XXXXXXXX command at the top of the file, just as if you were storing the list itself. Replace XXXXXXXX with your personal password. The variation for VM systems is that the LISTSERV maintainer will have to create a fileid for the file before you can PUT it on the server. Contact the LISTSERV maintainer before trying to store your template file. Please let me know when you find out the answer! I appreciate your help. Sincerely, Ken Reigner -- Ken Reigner [log in to unmask] List Owner, WIW-L and WIW-JOBS Member, Board of Directors Washington Independent Writers Chairman, Technology Committee [log in to unmask] On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Bill Harrison wrote: > I had the listmaster of our list make us a bottom banner for our list > and he has it on the list now. Below is the Put command I gave him to > use. > > PUT listname MAILTPL PW=xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>> BOTTOM_BANNER The bottom banner for the listname list > > ************** To Unsubscribe from listname ***************** > To unsubscribe from listname, send e-mail to: > [log in to unmask] > Put in body of message with NO subject line and NO sig: > signoff listname > ************************************************************ > > > As I said, he has the banner working on the list. > > However, I decided to look at the list mailtpl with the get command. I > did a "get listname mailtpl" command and the list did not have any > such file. I then did a "get listname filelist" and there was no > mailtpl file there. It did show a welcome file and the log files for > the archives. > > Is the mailtpl suppose to show in the filelist and isn't it suppose to > show in the get listname mailtpl command. Does it take 24 hours before > it starts showing up in these commands. > > If there is not a mailtpl, how does he have it working on our list > without this file. > > Thanks. > > > -- > Bill Harrison > [log in to unmask] >