I'm on a discussion list that is based at North Dakota, a listserv list, that has continuing problems with people trying to sign off. Apparently what happens is that they send the appropriate message, then they are supposed to get that "ok" confirmation, but it never shows up. Can anybody look into this? There's a person on the list who is making himself particularly obnoxious and we would be DELIGHTED to see him depart, but he can't do it and, since we are not listowners, neither can we. Where's the listowner? Who knows? Mary Schweitzer