OK, y'all, I'm getting desperate and grouchy on this issue. Even after posting the question here and to newsgroups in the news.* hierarchy, I can't seem to get a clean answer. buslib-l and a half dozen other lists from idbsu.idbsu.edu were formerly gatewayed to Usenet as bit.listserv.listname via AUVM. WHY am I still getting stuff like this when there is no subscription on the list for *@*auvm* or *@*american* ?? See quoted msg headers below....headers are complete and untouched.... I know there is a way to kill the groups so they don't keep bouncing around usenet full of spam and an occasional good message. However, no one here knows how, and I sure don't. And, I'm not sure what level of authority, and who has it, to get the groups killed and no messages coming from them. Any clues? I even sent a message to the help desk at uunet and got no reply.....which shows how desperate I was. Any help appreciated. dan >Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:39:29 -0700 >Subject: BUSLIB-L: approval required (79E081) > >This message was originally submitted by [log in to unmask] to the BUSLIB-L list >at IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or usual text deleted >------------------------ Original message ------------------------- >Received: from IDBSU by IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Mailer R2.08) with BSMTP id 2313; > Fri, 07 Nov 97 09:39:06 MST >Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by idbsu.idbsu.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) > with TCP; Fri, 07 Nov 97 09:39:05 MST >Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) > with BSMTP id 6761; Fri, 07 Nov 97 11:34:41 EST >Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by > AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1325; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 > 11:34:34 -0500 >To: [log in to unmask] >Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!news.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu! > ais.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!Supernews60!supernews.com!nntp.flash.net! > news.mira.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au! > munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au! > news.per.connect.com.au!news.waia.asn.au!news.iinet.net.au!not-for-mail >From: [log in to unmask] (David Novak) >Newsgroups: bit.listserv.buslib-l >Subject: Country Information for Travellers : Professional Info Research >Date: 5 Nov 1997 00:31:09 GMT >Organization: Community Networking >Lines: 107 >Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: [log in to unmask] >NNTP-Posting-Host: as197.nv.iinet.net.au >X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ >Xref: paladin.american.edu bit.listserv.buslib-l:22501 message deleted Dan Lester, 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA [log in to unmask] http://www.84.com/ http://www.lili.org/ http://library.idbsu.edu/ http://cyclops.idbsu.edu/ Albertsons Library at Boise State, the University for Idaho Sent me a postcard of a library yet? You'll get something nice in return. In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Erasmus, 1534