Everything on the net is new to everyone at some time and therefore there must be some education occurring to get people up to speed. I always think of the word assume as an easy way to make an ASS of U and ME. Being a Listowner is only a title and doesn't imply knowledge. When we create a new list several things occur; the requester and owner has the whole concept and options explained to them, the list is set up, the owner/s have a 2 hour training session on running a list, the owner is added to a the listowners list (owned by me) which I use to provide ongoing training t the owners. We are in a good position as all list owners are employees of Education Queensland. The listowners list is a great tool and after all, all we are doing is using the media to support the media. Obviously your operation seems larger than ours (sent to over 500 addresses) but I think a listowners list would provide guidance rather than the "big stick approach". Even so, in the training we give owners we tell them that "A list is not a democracy" (a concept that is being discussed on the LISTOWN-L list at the moment), likewise a listserv is not a democracy, you run the listserv - you make the rules. The owners should know this, if they don't like it they can go somewhere else, I would hope we never get to this stage! Paul. Paul Clarke Online Curriculum Information Project Officer Open Access Unit Gabba Towers Level 6, 411 Vulture Street Woolloongabba Brisbane Qld 4102 Ph: 07 3406 2755 Fax: 07 3406 2756 [log in to unmask] > >This is honestly something that I had never considered would happen. > >Last week, one of the people that owns a list on my Listserv gathered > >all the addresses of the other owners and sent them a message asking > >that they distribute the attached message to their list. From what I > >could tell, this was sent to over 500 addresses, but no lists were > >sent the message. The message was for an event for a local student > >group. The message was sent to the owners of all the lists - including > >those with worldwide distribution. I have not been able to determine > >whether or not that student group encouraged the message to be sent out, > >or if it was something this person did on their own. > > > > > >Q1: would you consider this a spam? > > > >Q2: what would you do: > > to the listowner? > > to the list he runs? >