Hello, I'm the listmom for [log in to unmask] I've noticed that a one of my subscribers, [log in to unmask], often gets auto-deleted, sometimes 2 or 3 times a day. The error-report form indiana.edu claims there's an invalid message-id. I finally found out that this id was present in a mail, generated by [log in to unmask] His message-id <19987310834641@> is refused by the mailsoftware of indiana.edu, and Listserv wil auto-delete the indiana.edu user ! Yes, an innocent user is actually punished for the malformed Message-Id, which is probably generated by NETCOMplete, the mail-program from Netcom.com. The user didn't userstand this at all, and first claimed that I was playing a game with him (after having been auto-deleted 4 times in a day !) I've mailed the postmaster at netcom.com and indiana.edu for help, but I haven't received any answer yet. Does somebody know a solution ? Complete error-report : >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 03:20:17 -0400 >From: "L-Soft list server at Brown University (1.8b)" <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: BLUES-L: [log in to unmask] auto-deleted >To: Jo Hermans <[log in to unmask]> >X-LSV-ListID: None > >The following users have been removed ("auto-deleted", in list owner jargon) >from the BLUES-L list as a result of the enclosed nondelivery error report. No >action is required from you; this message is only for your information. > >List of deleted users: > > Stuart L Norton <[log in to unmask]> > >----------------------- Nondelivery report (67 lines) ------------------------- >Return-Path: <> >Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (NJE origin LMAILER@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8298; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 03:20:16 -0400 >Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3323; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 03:20:16 -0400 >Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin SMTPLIST@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU > (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8296; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 03:20:16 -0400 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 98 03:20:15 EDT >From: <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Undeliverable Mail >X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" > >This delivery error is in a special format that allows software like >LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect addresses; you can >safely ignore the numeric codes. > >Note: delivery error converted to LMail format at BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU. > >--> Error description: >Error-For: [log in to unmask] >Error-Code: 3 >Error-Text: 553 Header Error - Invalid Message-Id > >Error-End: One error reported > >----------------- Original delivery error (before conversion) ----------------- >BROWNVM.brown.edu unable to deliver following mail to recipient(s): > <[log in to unmask]> >BROWNVM.brown.edu received negative reply: >553 Header Error - Invalid Message-Id > > ** Text of Mail follows ** >Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R4) > with BSMTP id 3320; Fri, 31 Jul 98 03:20:13 EDT >Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3315; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 03:20:13 -0400 >Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LISTSERV release 1.8b) > with NJE id 8042 for [log in to unmask]; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 > 03:20:07 -0400 >Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin SMTP@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail > V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8292; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 03:20:07 -0400 >Received: from nut.brown.edu (128.148.19.196) by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP > V2R4) with TCP; Fri, 31 Jul 98 03:20:05 EDT >Received: from dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.15]) > by nut.brown.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16669 for > <[log in to unmask]>; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 03:20:02 -0400 (EDT) >Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id > CAA24533 for [log in to unmask]; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 02:20:00 > -0500 (CDT) >Received: from lax-ca39-19.ix.netcom.com(205.184.226.147) by > dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma024412; Fri Jul 31 > 02:19:15 1998 >X-Mailer: NETCOMplete v3.27, from NETCOM On-Line Communications, Inc. >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Approved-By: [log in to unmask] >Message-ID: <19987310834641@> >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 02:20:00 -0500 >Reply-To: [log in to unmask] >Sender: Blues Music List <[log in to unmask]> >From: Thomas Houghton <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Freddy Robinson >To: Multiple recipients of list BLUES-L <[log in to unmask]> > >I asked a few weeks ago if anyone knew the where abouts of Freddy Robinson aka Abu >Talib. With this being vacation time I thought I might ask again. He was here in Los Angeles a >few years ago, but the thought being he headed back to Texas. Anyone? > >Best Regards, Tom Houghton > > --- Jo Hermans, System Administrator DINF, VUB University, Brussels [log in to unmask] http://dinf.vub.ac.be/~jo/ Tel : +32-2-629.38.19 Fax : +32-2-629.35.25