Hi, I'm new at listowning, and I have a couple of questions. ***Question 1*** First, what is 'proper' netiquette timing for announcing a change in listownership? a) immediately after the changeover occurs, b) during the period when the new listowners are learning how to manage the list, or c) after the training/trial period is over? My co-listowner was just beginning to learn how to handle errors when the subscribers learned of our new status...and this issue was one of the sticky points. ***Question 2*** I'm wondering if error reports get delivered to the wrong listowner very often, or whether I managed to see 'yet another one of those oddities?' The header at the bottom of this message looks like an error report that should have gone to the [log in to unmask] error box. It ended up in the Gardens error box. The cng.edu address is a Gardens subscriber. I've been sitting on it during a couple of days of indecision. Should messages like this be sent on the other person or back to the postmaster at cng.edu...or just deleted? Regards, Barb Dorsett <[log in to unmask]> active co-listowner for Gardens <[log in to unmask]> > -----Original Message----- > From: L-Soft list server at University of Kentucky (1.8c) > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 1998 7:28 AM > To: Barb Dorsett > Subject: GARDENS: error report from CNG.EDU > > > The enclosed mail file has been identified as a delivery error for list > GARDENS because it was sent to the reserved 'owner-gardens' mailbox. > > ------------------------------ Message in error > ------------------------------- > Received: from eniac.cable.net.co (196.27.25.66) by lsv.uky.edu (LSMTP for > Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id > <[log in to unmask]>; Thu, 20 Aug > 1998 8:27:33 -0400 > Received: from CNG.EDU (209.88.52.40) by eniac.cable.net.co; 20 Aug 1998 > 07:24:55 +0500 > Received: from DAVID/SpoolDir by CNG.EDU (Mercury 1.40); > 20 Aug 98 07:27:02 -0500 > Received: from SpoolDir by DAVID (Mercury 1.40); 20 Aug 98 07:22:47 -0500 > From: Mail Delivery System <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Date: Thu, 20 Aug 98 7:22:43 -0500 > Subject: Delivery failure notification > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary=Part_Boundary-38CE > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> > > --Part_Boundary-38CE > Content-type: Text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-description: Mail delivery failure report > Content-disposition: Inline > > With reference to your message with the subject: > "Educational Links" > > The local mail transport system has reported the following problems > it encountered while trying to deliver your message: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > User ion from 200.200.200.2, Wed Aug 19 11:05:41 1998 not > known at this site. > User EHLO CNG.EDU not known at this site. > User DATA - 33 lines, 1306 bytes. not known at this site. > User QUIT - 0 sec. elapsed, connection closed Wed Aug 19 > 11:05:41 not known at this site. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Your mail message is being returned to you in the next part of this > message. > > Should you need assistance, please mail [log in to unmask] > > --Part_Boundary-38CE > Content-type: Message/RFC822 > Content-description: Contents of original mail message > > DATA - 30 lines, 1415 bytes. > DATA - 45 lines, 2165 bytes. > Connection from 128.230.20.20, Wed Aug 19 11:09:04 1998 > EHLO mailer.syr.edu > Connection from 200.200.200.2, Wed Aug 19 11:09:09 1998 > EHLO CNG.EDU > MAIL FROM:<bouli.ARGOS.XUease 1.8c) with spool id 9105166 for > [log in to unmask]; > Mon, 17 Aug 1998 12:44:17 -0400 > Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net by > maelstrom.stjohns.edu (LSMTP for > OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id > <[log in to unmask]>; Mon, > 17 Aug 1998 12:43:58 -0500 > Received: from default (ip239.pasadena3.ca.pub-ip.psi.net > [38.12.85.239]) by > swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id > JAA18163; Mon, > 17 Aug 1998 09:43:54 -0700 (PDT) > X-Sender: [log in to unmask] > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 09:48:47 -0700 > Reply-To: Adults with Attention Deficit Disorder > <[log in to unmask]> > Sender: Adults with Attention Deficit Disorder > <[log in to unmask]> > From: Gayle <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Educational Links > To: [log in to unmask] > > A week or so ago, I got Earthlink's newsletter for it's members, Blink. > This issue is dedicated to the subject of Educational Links (including > [log in to unmask]> > QUIT - 24 sec. elapsed, connection closed Wed Aug 19 11:14:00 1998 > > QUIT - 287 sec. elapsed, connection closed Wed Aug 19 11:14:01 1998 > > DATA - 24 lines, 1109 bytes. > QUIT - 44 sec. elapsed, connection closed Wed Aug 19 11:14:29 1998 > > DATA - 41 lines, 2287 bytes. > DATA - 68 lines,wF=GD&.4! f > f > Gff]樵 ...and more gibberish, ad nauseum