Ben - Thanks for the warning however I have to report that the command - SET * NOMAIL NOPOST FOR *@hotmail.com ( with prostate for *) did not work for me as an owner of a ACOR ML . Neither did individual SET PROSTATE NOMAIL and SET PROSTATE NOPOST for *@hotmail.com - work and I was finally reduced to individual set nomail and set nopost messages. What did I miss or where did I go wrong. Finally who will give the signal that - hotmail - has solved its problems so we may return these subscribers to access to our ML and with what command other than individually as I found necessary to isolate them. Best Ed - PPML PS - None of the co-owners has or had a HOTMAIL account. At 04:43 PM 12/30/1998 -0700, Ben Parker wrote: >As many of you may know, there continue to be serious email problems with all >hotmail.com addresses subscribed to email lists. Briefly, there are 2 >problems. One is misdirected mail, where a hotmail.com user receives mail in >their mailbox from several or many other lists to which they are not >subscribed. The second and related problem is that the user may receive many >multiple copies of some of these same messages. > >Both of these problems are occurring internally at hotmail and are NOT caused >by any faulty mail delivery from *.lsoft.com hosts or *.stjohns.edu or other >affected host sites. We have received many end-user complaints but since the >problem is internal to hotmail.com we cannot accomplish a 'fix'. The Hotmail >technical staff are aware of the problem and are working on it. Hotmail users >should address complaints to these addresses: > > [log in to unmask] > [log in to unmask] > [log in to unmask] > [log in to unmask] > >However there are privacy and security issues involved. Some List Owners use >hotmail.com accounts to administer their lists. We have received reports that >in some cases list owner and/or list member passwords have been exposed in >some of these misdirected mail messages. Also we have reports from a number >of lists which normally discuss highly personal and private matters that their >messages are going astray as well. These exposures are very unfortunate. > >Because of our concern for these matters, L-Soft recommends that all List >Owners take the following steps. We also ask all Site Administrators to pass >along this information to their List Owners as applicable. > >1. Do not use a hotmail.com account to administer your list. There is a risk >that your password could be compromised. Use another email account. > >2. If you already have used a hotmail account for list administration you >should use the PW RESET command to cancel your existing password associated >with that hotmail.com address. At this time it is NOT recommended that you >obtain a new password since that also can be compromised. Use a different >mail account. > >3. Owners of lists discussing sensitive material should know their >subscribers private affairs are at risk of exposure. If you run such a list, >we recommend you set all hotmail.com subscribers to NOMAIL NOPOST. You can do >this easily with the command: > > SET * NOMAIL NOPOST FOR *@hotmail.com > >The alternative is to HOLD your list, thereby freezing ALL mail activity for >your list. List Owners are best equipped to evaluate the nature of their >list(s) and the risks and consequences of exposure for their own subscribers >and then take action as they deem appropriate. We strongly recommend you take >some action to protect your subscribers during this period if you have any >doubts about this. Needless to say you should also let your subscribers know >what is going on. > >-- > __________________________________________________________________ > Ben Parker . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . L-Soft international Inc. > [log in to unmask] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Support Engineer