> 0) an excellent WELCOME file that fully describes the QUOTING policy and > the results if those rules are not followed There is the rub, Pete: not many listowners impose penalties for excess quoting, they just beg and plead that it not be done, to no avail. I would like to impose penalties, I *could* get the excess quoting stopped while keeping the lists alive, but my coowners, one per list, would not go along with it. That leaves begging for compliance and it does not work. One of my co-owners has seen so much of the excess quoting that she accepts it as normal and does it herself. Douglas