13 April 1999 Ottawa Canada A couple of years ago, we added subscription renewal, yearly to [log in to unmask], a list I have been listowner of for several years and a list which had many existing subscribers prior to implimenting subscription renewal. It seems as if the subscribers who have subscribed after implimenting subscription renewals are getting an annual subscription renewal request but that the old subscribers who were already subscribed before renewal was implimented are not getting an annual renewal request. I issued a quiet query blind-l for *@* and noticed the old subscribers do not appear to have a subscription date on file. So my question is: How do I see to it that the subscribers with no subscription date on file get a subscription notice? My other question is how I can assign a subscription date to about 300 subscribers who do not have them? I suppose I could do a bunch of quiet delete and quiet add then quiet set commands for each subscriber involved, but am hoping there is a much less labor intensive way of accomplishing this. Reading the Listowner manual, I noticed that subscribers who post regularly to the list are considered to have valid addresses and are not sent a renewal request. However most of my old subscribers seldom post to the list so the active user rule does not apply. Thanks in advance for any and all help. Brian Lingard [log in to unmask] tel (613) 954-8280