I have all new subscribers set to review. In my policy statement is a blurb that people violating the policies (flaming, quoting, soliciting, etc) are set to review with no notice given. I don't send the "message submitted to moderator message either" After years of handling the type of lists I do and due to my own time constraints, it is just one less level of aggravation and hassle when time can be spent on more constructive issues. This has not as of yet presented a problem for more than a couple of people. People that get interested in debating the issue of free speech I refer to lists that cater to that topic. Cindy, don't let it get to you. This just happens to be a topic that some people have strong feelings about and desired to air their views. I see a "strong opinion" every time this topic comes up. In the extreme case where you get a subscriber that actually does query their account and inquire about it, is probably more interested in politicizing about how you should run your list and is a problem subscriber anyway. If you replace the >>>SIGNUP template from the canned response, subscribers are less likely to know about that command too. Randy http://www.our-kids.org/