I don't know how my list co-owners handle it, but I give themn one warning and tell them if they do it again they are out; if they do they are, period. Of course they are free to resub but maybe they'll remember to set NOMAIL before invoking vacation/out-of-office. Lest anyone ask, yes, I do remember who out of 6 - 7 thousand has a tendency to do this and who has been given a warning which has not been heeded (do something that really irritates me and, lousy as I am at remembering people's names, I remember). Douglas