Here's a heads-up for all listowners... At least one cretin has figured out a way to "subvert" the confirmation process used by all clueful mailing list owners to prevent the subscribing of people to the list without their consent.. All it takes is a freebie provider of both mailforwarding AND mail services (meaning the ability to send and receive mail from a pseudo-anonymous account). In my case the mail-bomber used mypad.com. Here's how it works... 1) Register with the freebie provider to get a [log in to unmask] address. 2) Subscribe to a number of high-volume mailing lists. 3) Respond to all the confirmation messages using mypad.com services 4) Once all confirmations are acknowledged, activate the forwarding option and direct all incoming [log in to unmask] mail to [log in to unmask] Happily, the full mail headers clearly reveals the forwarded account used to relay the mail. The "Received:" headers are especially useful. I've written the folk at mypad.com telling them that they should implement some sort of positive confirmation *before* starting to relay mail to a forwarding address. I'll let you know if I hear anything back from them. Simeon ben Nevel ListOwner: PetBunny (listserve) Lapine-Med-L (majordomo) BABL-List (majordomo) PB-Ops (eGroups.com) EtherBun (MacJorDomo) -- [log in to unmask] =-=-=-=-= A rabbit is just an angel with big ears! Send mail to [log in to unmask] with Subject: send index to get a listing of files available from my e-mail robot. <*>