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5 Aug 1993 20:17:55 -0400 from "Forum on LISTSERV release 1.7"
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On Thu, 5 Aug 1993 20:17:55 -0400 Chris Lewis <[log in to unmask]>
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>That incident was indeed a finger problem on my part, but it still begs
>the question of whether a LISTSERV should ever bounce a duplicate back
>at a USENET-origin posting. (...) But don't do this until Eric fixes the
>bounce-usenet postings problem.
Are we speaking the same language? I thought we had already made the
point that LISTSERV can't know that the message came from usenet.
Therefore there is not going to be a "fix" to this "problem". This being
said, I never cease to be amazed at the intolerance of usenet people for
non-usenet behaviour (often referred to as "fascist"). When a mailing
list manager decides to gateway his list to usenet, he and all the
subscribers know they will have to put up with a number of things which
are normal in the usenet world and orthogonal to the mailing list
philosophy, such as total lack of control (yes, I know you can moderate,
but in practice people have no time for that). They put up, in the
interest of communication. Usenet people, on the other hand, seem very
thin-skinned and it doesn't take much for them to start complaining that
there are systems in the world which dare to be different. I have no
obligation to modify LISTSERV to save you from the major trouble of
having to invest 20 seconds a month deleting one useless mail message. I
have already pointed out that I have no reliable way to know that the
message comes from usenet, so I cannot fix the problem. And yet in all
your messages you seem to assume that, of course, I *will* modify the
behaviour of LISTSERV in the general case just to avoid offending usenet
people - it's just a matter of pressure, maybe it will take another 20
messages, maybe another 50, who knows.
This ridiculous discussion has been going on for too long and people are
starting to sign off. This will be my last message on the topic. I will
not "fix" your problem because I cannot identify usenet postings in a
reliable way. If in the future it becomes possible to identify them I
will reconsider. Until this becomes possible you are just wasting the
time of the 500-1000 people reading this list. End of discussion.
Eric
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