The modern Kludge:
>Send= Public,confirm,non-member (This is new in ver 14.3 and 14.4)
>Default-Options= Review (this is required to interact with above)
>Editor= [log in to unmask]
>
A few quick remarks, that I don't recall seeing in this discussion ...
(0) Don't expect this to act like The Kludge. It isn't the Kludge. For
some uses of the Kludge it's better, for some it's worse.
(1) Though it may not be obvious, this works as if "Hold" were
specified. Strangely, one may *not* specify "Hold" in this syntax.
(2) Editor is different from moderator. In my experience, they are
confused because an Editor will be a moderator if moderators are not
defined, and because people think of an editor as editing and
moderating, as with a newspaper editor. Common use of the term "editor"
does not match the functionality of a Listserv list editor.
(3) One might expect "Send= Public,confirm,non-member" to cause
confirmation of all posts, while allowing posts from non-members. Not
true. Members (subscribers!) do not confirm their posts when this
syntax is in effect.
(4) Confirmation of non-subscriber posts is very good at limiting spam
that moderators must process.
(5) This syntax may be incompatible with gateway'd lists, but I haven't
tested it yet. Do the other posters get confirmed, or the gateway? If
the gateway, there may not be a problem, if you expect no confirmation
action to gateway posters. As I have such a list (with a temporarily
broken gateway ... not a Listserv problem), ... must test!
(6) This syntax is a poor substitute for the Kludge when one wants to
allow new subscribers to post, but moderate non-subscribers.
Essentially, "Default-Options=" has been overloaded.
So as nice as the new facility is, I think LSoft has not only changed
existing behavior, but added to confusion and complexity already in
product configuration (see, also, the the recent comment on
archives/notebooks).
With continuing call for major enhancements wrt subscribers via LDAP and
SQL query (see, also, Sympa), perhaps it's time for a migration to a new
system and new terminology?
cheers, wayne
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