Not in readable form? What form is it in? If it is a zip file or tar
file, another potential host site would probably prefer to get it that
way and unpack it themselves.

Margaret King
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Quoting Anita Cohen-Williams <[log in to unmask]>:

> All hope is not lost (yet). ASU has the archives but it is not in readable
> form and will not be until the list is restored. And that can't happen
> until I find two ASU faculty members willing to sponsor the list.
> Apparently, my last sponsor left the university and gave the list to
> someone else, who then had it deleted when she left, and I have no idea who
> that was.
>
> The only other alternative is having L-Soft host the list and I cannot
> afford their prices.
>
> ?Anita Cohen?
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Anita Cohen-Williams <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Ben,
>>
>> So what you are telling me is that the entire archive of Histarch (1994 -
>> 2016) is gone. Not only is that extremely upsetting, but I wonder if I
>> really want to resurrect the list with another host and try again.
>>
>>
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>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 8:42 AM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Russell,
>>>
>>> What do you consider to be the "participation limitations of
>>> GoogleGroups"?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: LISTSERV List Owners' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of Russell Hunt
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 6:07 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [LSTOWN-L] HISTARCH list has vanished completely
>>>
>>> A couple of reflections from a long-time, but not especially
>>> knowledgable, listowner. I'm surprised about ASU here; my impression is
>>> that they've been a pretty reliable host for academic lists for a long
>>> time. On the other hand . . . many universities seem to have come to the
>>> conclusion that listservs are, um, old hat, and expensive, when people
>>> could use more trendy social media. That seems to me flat wrong, since in
>>> general "social media" assume that if it's more than 24 hours old it's not
>>> only forgettable, but hey presto! already forgotten. A substantial number
>>> have decided, or are deciding, that LISTSERV is too expensive to justify
>>> for the on-campus use it's getting. I've had to move one smallish group to
>>> GoogleGroups, and I know of another academic listserv that had to do the
>>> same because the host university dropped LISTSERV. The result has been that
>>> discussion has been essentially extinguished by the participation
>>> limitations of GoogleGroups. If you have to move this list off ASU, I wish
>>> you luck looking for a suitable host: it's not going to be easy. LISTSERV
>>> isn't, and shouldn't be, cheap.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Russ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: LISTSERV List Owners' Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of Charles Clausen
>>>
>>> Sent: February-16-17 3:46 PM
>>>
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: HISTARCH list has vanished completely
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> LSoft's ListPlex service, which provides hosting, is here:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.lsof
>>> t.com_products_listplex.asp&d=AwIGaQ&c=SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHg
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>>> Hs&s=t1OXd05zaQJwpcWPg0pQc3P6j2wJvuVLnVqEM2FADHU&e=
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is for paying customers. Historically, they have donated hosting to
>>> a few non-profit orgs (I don't know if they are still taking on
>>> new groups):
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__communit
>>> y.lsoft.com_scripts_wa-2DLSOFTDONATIONS.exe-3FINDEX&
>>> d=AwIGaQ&c=SgMrq23dbjbGX6e0ZsSHgEZX6A4IAf1SO3AJ2bNrHlk&r=dOG
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>>> MAstKWLAStOF2JrKU0&e=
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not listed here is a group of cancer lists to which they donated services
>>> back in 1996. The non-profit org under which they were organized has pretty
>>> much dissolved over the years, but LSoft continues to host several of the
>>> lists, some of which are very active.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Charles Clausen
>>>
>>> ppml-info.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:21:25 -0700, Anita Cohen-Williams <
>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >In the meantime, if I can get the list back and all the archives, I
>>>
>>> >think I need to move it  to another host. Does L-Soft host lists?
>>>
>>>
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>
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