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"Steven R. Eckert" <[log in to unmask]>
Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:40:46 -0700
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>>>From: Peter Rauch <[log in to unmask]>
>>>So, my follow-up question still remains: Is the following legal?
>>>SEND= access-level,Semi-Moderated,Hold,Confirm
 
I just followed Peter over here from another list, where this issue
has caused some hacking to test things... and I'd like to ask a
question related to (and which triggered) Peter's question:
 
BACKGROUND:
With "* SEND= Editor,Hold,Confirm", the confirmation messages
(requiring an OK) don't go to the editor! Well, they do SOMETIMES,
but not ALWAYS. I have a moderated list which is subscribed to
an unmoderated list, hoping to just OK the msgs which match the
moderation charter. When a non-editor posts to the unmoderated
list, that list sends a copy to the moderated list, and the
editor gets a chance to OK it. HOWEVER, when the editor sends
a post to the unmoderated list, the copy which goes to the
moderated list is sent back to "owner-unmod_list", which then
goes to the list owner as an error message. The owner cannot
OK the msg, because the msg MUST come back from the address
to which it was sent.
 
QUESTION:
Why? Is this a bug? Shouldn't the confirmations ALL be sent
to the editor regardless of who submits the message? Did I miss
the documentation that indicates some confirmation msgs go to
different places when Confirm is used in addition to Hold?
 
TESTING:
If I drop the Confirm switch, then posting from the editor's
account to the unmoderated list causes the message to be
sent to the moderated list, where it is IMMEDIATELY sent out,
ignoring the Review setting.
 
An example of the error message is below. I am the owner and
editor of both lists, and the recipient of errors-to, etc.
I tried sending "ok 396AC3", and I tried spoofing the reply
syntax with just "ok" in the message body, to no avail. I just
keep getting errors about sending the magic cookie from the
wrong address.
 
SRE
 
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EXAMPLE:
server is                          [log in to unmask]
unmoderated list is     [log in to unmask]
moderated list is   [log in to unmask]
 
 
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The  LOMAP-PEAK-CLIMBING-MOD  list  has  been configured  to  request  explicit
confirmation of all messages posted to the list, for security reasons. You must
now confirm that the  message enclosed below did originate from  you. To do so,
simply reply to the  present message and type "OK" (without  the quotes) in the
text  of your  message.  If this  does  not work,  or if  the  message did  NOT
originate from you, contact the list owner for assistance.
 
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 02:15:38 -0700
From: [log in to unmask] (Steven R. Eckert)
Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: GEAR: test msg 1
Sender: [log in to unmask]
 
  NOTE: Subjects with improper TOPICS format may never reach anyone!
  Terms and conditions for use of this list are in the WELCOME text.
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Jim - when you post, make sure to use a valid topic
such as GEAR, SNOW, PCS... or else it will not go to
the moderated list from the unmoderated one.
 
(posted from editor's netcom account to the unmoderated list)
 
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