Eric Thomas <ERIC@FRECP11>
Tue, 18 Nov 1986 17:20 SET
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Ross,
What you ask for is in contradiction with the very purpose of DISTRIBUTE.
First, DISTRIBUTE works on just ANY list of people. It was designed to take off
the burden of having to create distribution lists for everything. If you force
people to use DISTRIBUTE only on lists, you go against that philosophy.
Second, even assuming DISTRIBUTE is restricted to distribution to a pre-defi
ned list over which you have control, you are still using other people's
servers. Let's say you're distributing something to LSTSRV-L. You MAY be using
the xEARN server. Maybe xEARN doesn't want to allow distribution to LSTSRV-L
because they think it is just garbage and they don't want to be involved in it.
So you're back to step one: you've restricted DISTRIBUTE to lists, and you've
restricted the list of servers who are involved to the list of servers who
run the list. That is, you've completely removed the DISTRIBUTE command which
is now strictly identical to SF fileid TO listid. Note that you can exclude
yourself from participating in DISTRIBUTE by setting your :version. tag to
0.0 in your entry. But this applies to any and all DISTRIBUTE jobs, and your
server would still accept DISTRIBUTE jobs sent from your node for example and
would forward them to the other servers normally.
Granted, you're responsible for the network/CPU use of LISTSERV. That's why I
asked the list's opinion about such a significant distribution as ARPA digests.
I perfectly understand your point about people who want to use your resources
but are not willing to cooperate by installing a LISTSERV, and my personal
reaction would be: NO WAY UNLESS YOU MAKE THE FIRST STEP. I find it abnormal
that hub US nodes are not doing anything to help dimishing network load (see
PSUVM which doesn't have a MAILER). I find it even more irritating that they
dare ask us to lend our resources while still refusing to do anything. But I
would like to help the network so I try to cooperate with them. Note that
'they' refer to the decision-makers and political types, of course the techies
understand what the problem is but they can't make any decision...
Similarly I would find it impolite for someone to use DISTRIBUTE and have its
server removed from the list of the LISTSERVs who participate in DISTRIBUTE.
Meme punition, meme motif as we say here. There is of course no problem with
people who don't want to support DISTRIBUTE on their server but do not make any
use of it either -- this is a very acceptable behaviour.
Eric
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