Thu, 8 May 1997 16:19:04 -0400
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On Thu, 08 May 1997 15:54:20 -0400 "C. Harald Koch"
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>...
> AOL is rejecting the mail at the MAIL From: command when the SENDER contains
> a source route, i.e.
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> MAIL From:<@elgreco.border.com:[log in to unmask]>
>
> I have no problem with people being unwilling to act as mail relayers to
> arbitrary domains. I object *strongly* to them *denying* me the ability to
> use mail relayers outside of their administrative purview.
Sorry. But the bottom line is the same. You can object
all you like. If they want to make a business decision to
not let particular messages flow through to their users (on
any basis at all), there is little that the IETF community
--or the sender-- can do about it besides suggest that your
correspondents find a different ISP.
This isn't ultimately a discussion about standards, it is a
discussion about whether AOL has the right to manage their
business as they see fit, even it they see fit to do things
you find obnoxious or I think constitute shooting
themselves in the foot (neither of those may be the case,
they are just examples). I fear that I think they do --
the alternatives are too horrible to contemplate.
For whatever my biases are worth:
* You shouldn't be sending out source routes. There really
is no good reason for them.
* AOL should probably not reject things on the basis of
what is in the envelope sender address unless they have
specific cause.
* In my time, I've taken a lot of people off of mailing
lists because I got tired of dealing with their email
system and how it was managed. I usually found a way to
explain to them that, if they found a more reasonable (as
defined exclusively by me) supplier, I'd be happy to put
them back on. In a few cases, that strategy ultimately
resulted in some fixes being made. In others,...
john
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